Chdonga 2012-01-09 01:01:01

Yeah. It's best the newfags learn through trial and error because that's how we learned.

Steinberg 2012-01-09 01:04:02

That's totally right, something that always motivates me is watching the old stuff from good authors here in newgrounds, and see how long they took to get as good as they are. I procrastinated for lots of years, and now I wish that I had practiced for all that time and wonder how good I would be. That said, progress is different for everyone, but I know that pushing myself and just practicing will work, even if it takes forever, I still suck, but creating is fun regardless of the final result, and improvment comes naturally.
That said, I agree with you that Bocodamondo is a great exemple, I watched his last animation a couple of days ago, and I was just... "Is this that guy who made that socks thing? OMG, this is so much better, good for him!" I was legitimately amazed and happy for him. So yeah, I guess he is the best example I can think right now.

Tyler 2012-01-09 02:31:56

I always thought that psychicpebble guy has come a long way. Also, I always remembered Nero-Geist (sp?) trying hard and has come a decent way so far. There are others I can't think of right now.

I guess it's behind the scenes, but I make notice of a few people and start to remember their usernames more and more. I don't know how else to say other than I like watching them improve- its inspiring.

Also, great share, I've been feeling the same way. My stuff just isn't where I want it to be - I know what i'm aiming for, I just can't make it happen yet. Thanks for da encouraging video.

Ockeroid 2012-01-09 02:35:28

That's the most inspiring and encouraging thing I've seen/heard in a long time. Thank you

Joeylicious 2012-01-09 04:48:30

Zach Hadel would have to be my choice.
Massive improvement there.

Smorgishmorg 2012-01-09 06:33:02

Ira Glass is a boss. He's the white Jew answer to Morgan Freeman.

I would say one artist who's improved a shitload lately is smorgishmorg.

bocodamondo 2012-01-09 07:13:50

omg that video! its tottaly sais what i allways feel when im making a flash or artwork!
in my mind it allways looks so epic. but once i animate it. it dont look that epic anymore that feeling sucks.but atleast with this feeling. i allways want to challenge myself and tryes to make the next flash better then my last one.(ARTWORKS too). also getting tipps and tricks from other artist works is also allways a good thing for me. to level my animations UP.
in 2010 i didn uploaded anything (yes that RE: Parts was actuarly made in 2009)
but in that time i was not lazy (ok i played alot of TF2 & yugioh Online a.k.a wasting time) but i still did drawed for fun and this does cont as improvement... anyway later in 2011 i started my "yugioh mx" flash thing. its was not really perfect; but then i saw that tomefulp "animate a clown dying" contest and i said "lets do a flash about this" and so i did.(at that time i had to move out from larache to martil [morocco citys]) and i stayed for a while (1 MONTH) without connection. at that time i started to mess around ALOT in flash. after the connection came back: "Death of clown Toggaf" and "MX popipo" were released. and that was the begenning of the NEW bocodamondo ^^ . a better flash after the other (well "Trick or treat hater" wasnt really good. but i had to do it only 1 month) . and i hope i will get even better with the time :).
a good example about someone improving for me is...hm...i guess its psychicpebble . first i though hes just a "idk" wich makes short flashes in Youtube for fun. but now i quite respect that guy. hes turns really good. story lines AND animations.

well. i hope that was not alot of spam from me ^^

Ps you draw pokemons really good :P

JohnnyUtah 2012-01-09 07:39:07

I had to google who the hell Ira Glass is, but what he says is hella true (dawg).

VidGameDude 2012-01-09 08:35:43

Boco and kreid.

i've been backing them up since 09 and onward. i knew they would eventually grow out of being underdogs. they have done such fantastic jobs.

StomachBug 2012-01-09 09:04:28

Good vid, thanks for sharing it with us. It's good to know that we all start small and have the potential to become something greater so long as we are willing to put the time and effort into it.

TheMAM 2012-01-09 09:06:53

I totally agree. Bocodamondo is an example of an artist who has improved with flying colors.

Kirbopher 2012-01-09 09:07:25

First of all, I loved this video. Fully worth those two minutes; thanks for linking it.

While I agree with its point, I've seen a lot of people be -ridiculed- for their "tastes" and therefore assumed to be artists/creators who are less smart. I.E. if you're not spooging your pants over everything Richard Williams or the 9 old men have ever done, if you don't think Evangelion is the only good/deepest anime ever concieved, if you think that Family Guy or anything ever made by Seth MacFarland is entertaining, then you're considered an idiot with bad taste and people take you less seriously. It looked to me like this unspoken law of "you have to like these certain things and hate these specific things or you don't know jack crap when it comes to art/comics/animation/whatever." I've seen this mentality toned down a bit as of late, but I can recall seeing it passed around a lot only a few years back.

FrozenFire 2012-01-09 10:23:21

I remember Oney's first flash submission :)

I remember my first flash submission Oh God.

Sabtastic 2012-01-09 10:24:01

Thanks, man! That was really motivating. :D

My favourite improving artist has got to be my little sis, Pickletoez. I like to think I've taught her everything I know. ;D She's been drawing since she was like 10, and 9 years later, she's out-drawing me in terms of quantity and creativity...!! D: >

You go, lil' sis. :D

You too, Redminus! C:
Hope your holidays were awesome!

NeroGeist 2012-01-09 11:05:21

Love the video! :D

Luis 2012-01-09 11:36:34

yeah id probably say psychopebble also. His work was such shit but he's a world class animator nowadays.

RicePirate 2012-01-09 11:38:29

Folks ask me all the time, why I pump out so much shit. And to be fair, a lot of it is shit. Voicing and animation, I turn down very few projects (beginners or pros) ... often biting off more than I can chew.

The sentiments in the video, I think explain why I've been this way the last year and a half. Trying to bridge the gap, and catch up to my own ambition.

love you

I-smel 2012-01-09 12:15:58

Yea I saw this a while ago. I think watching the regular video is better:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI23U7U2aUY">www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI23U7U2aUY</a>
I didn't know who Ira Glass was before, but apparantly he's PRETTY SMART?

My favourite guy who I saw as a beginner was that guy who made Toss The Turtle.
Which... apparantly that was 3 years ago. But my point is that he's bin great on everything since then.
And also every voice actor I've ever worked with.
ALSO- I was friends with Ansel.newgrounds.com in like 2008, and everything he did was really fuckin good, but then he kinda dissapeared.

I-smel 2012-01-09 12:33:31

Also- this has come up a couple times recently: people having trouble dealing with "haters" early on.
I've never had a problem with it, cos most criticisms against stuff I make is usually true. I don't get in arguments with people cos I usually just straight-up agree and take note of everything they don't like. I mean I'm seeing the same thing they're seeing.
So no matter how harsh or annoying someone is, if you just find out what their problem is, it's probably something you agree with. Then they're your best friend the next day.

MindChamber 2012-01-09 14:07:20

totally agree. and to add to that, never let the people who couldnt their way to closing that game pull you down. naysayers can really lengthen the time it takes to be all you can be. So learn how to get a thick skin early on.

My fave animator would be nelson.newgrounds.com he started out with alot of quickly drawn , will done animation to amazing pieces like the "Little Boat" animation.
hes a huge inspiration.